点击：次 2021-04-04 13:07:25
Russell Westbrook is now averaging a triple double again... quietly.
不经意间间，拉塞尔-威斯布鲁克又一次达到了场均三双……
When is he going to get the respect he deserves as an all time great?
昨天晚上天才击败活塞杆的赛事里，维斯布鲁克抓下了19篮板球，近五个賽季第4次达到场均三双的造就.沒有达到的那一个賽季，也就是赛季，缘故是他赶到了一支全新升级的团队，在全新升级的管理体系里打篮球。即便那样，维斯布鲁克或是以职业生涯新纪录准确率取得了27 8 7的数据信息。
维斯布鲁克到底什么时候才可以获得该有的重视，被看作在历史上杰出的足球运动员？
I absolutely love how the first time it happened, it was just like an earthquake every day kind of situation, every day we had a ton of threads about it and it was just one of the most exciting stories of the decade in the NBA; and when it happens the next times, it's like "yeah whatever".
我肯定享有印证维斯布鲁克第一次达到场均三双的体会，每日如同发生了地震灾害一样，始终不缺话题讨论度，那就是NBA近十年内最令人激动的小故事之一。殊不知维斯布鲁克第二次达到的情况下，我的感受变成：行吧，实际上也莫过于此。
[–][MIA] Dwyane WadeInPatRileyWeTrust 212 指標 18小時前
That's also because during his MVP season he was genuinely great. Since then he might rack up triple doubles but he isn't good.
nba热火足球迷：还有一个缘故，第一次是角逐MVP的賽季，他打得确实非常好。之后即便达到了场均三双，但实际上打的并不太好。
The more shocking stat is how does a guy who shoots 80% FT for 9 years now shoots 65% with less attempts.
更令人吃惊的数据信息是，一个职业发展9个賽季罚篮准确率超出80%的人，新赛季罚篮准确率仅有65%，罚篮数也越来越少了。
I love Westbrook but he was definitely one of the reasons the Knicks beat them 2 times in a row. Hurts to see it, man.
湖人足球迷：我很喜欢维斯布鲁克，可是他确实是湖人能持续2次击败天才的缘故之一，真令人伤心。
[–]SpursSnuggleMuffin42 245 指標 19小時前
Every time the Thunder played us in the playoffs everybody on the Spurs thread just prayed for more Westbrook jump shots and cheered every time he tried one instead of giving the ball to KD or Ibaka or really, anybody else lol
马刺足球迷：每一次NBA季后赛对战雷庭的情况下，马刺这里的任何人都是在祷告维斯布鲁克能多下手几回投篮。每一次选择自己投，而不是发送给詹姆斯、伊巴卡或是别的什么人，大家便会为此喝彩，哈哈哈哈哈哈。
[–]Thunderthebrodie925 150 指標 18小時前
The 2016 playoff series. Westbrook and the two bigs were the key in beating you guys in 6. We definitely needed him to be our best player against your team
雷庭足球迷：2016年NBA季后赛，维斯布鲁克和大家的俩位大个儿足球运动员是6场以内取代大家的重要，对上马刺的情况下大家肯定必须维斯布鲁克取出最好情况。
[–]SpursSnuggleMuffin42 34 指標 15小時前
I said specifically jump shots. He became increasingly in love with his own shot as the year progressed, to his team's detriment except one aberration year where he shot almost in league average efficiency (his MVP season).
马刺足球迷：我说的是他的投篮，伴随着时间流逝，维斯布鲁克愈来愈喜爱自身下手投球，虽然这会给足球队产生损害。除开正中间有一年除外，那一个賽季维斯布鲁克的投球做到了同盟平均，恰好是他拿MVP的賽季。
[–]Thunderthebrodie925 25 指標 15小時前
As a thunder fan of 13 years. I have seen this first hand numerous times of him taking too many jump shots. Still love Russ though.
雷庭足球迷：做为雷庭13年双飞粉，我已经一次次亲眼目睹印证维斯布鲁克下手太数次投篮，但我还是喜爱维斯布鲁克！
[–]BullsNAMESPLISSKEN 39 指標 15小時前
My favorite Westbrook moment was in the Finals when he took more shots than the best offensive player in the game
小牛足球迷：我最爱的维斯布鲁克時刻便是，他在决赛里的下手频次超出了队伍攻击最強的足球运动员。
[–]Trail BlazersENEMYAC130AB0VE 18 指標 16小時前
Same, every time we’ve ever played against Westbrook I’m begging for him to take more shots.
勇士足球迷：一样的，大家团队每一次和维斯布鲁克打赛事，因为我在祷告维斯布鲁克多投好多个。
[–]Lakersfactcheck_ 7 指標 14小時前
Loved seeing russ take shots down the stretch of game 5 vs portland instead of pg lol. Pg gets the flak for the bad shot comment but he was on fire that game. Thank god for russ
湖人队足球迷：很高兴见到维斯布鲁克在雷庭和勇士系列赛第五场的紧要关头下手投球，而不是乔冶，哈哈哈哈哈哈。乔冶全场赛事打得都很好，却由于最终被威斯布鲁克当众决杀比赛之后被指责，维斯布鲁克真应当感谢上苍。
[–]grandmasta_fro 377 指標 20小時前
Y'all really need to understand that Westbrook is already a first ballot Hall of Famer. Nothing that happens for the rest of his career is changing that.
你需要了解维斯布鲁克早已是将来的名人堂成员了，剩余的职业发展不管产生全都始终不变这一点。
[–]76ersChubbyKidBuu 61 指標 18小時前
Triple Doubles are cool but winning is cooler. His MVP season he was clutch af, outside of that...I'm good. More often then not he shoots you out of games and he sucks at defense, which is mind blowing considering how athletic he is, but I guess potential defensive rebounds are more important then staying in front of your man.
凯尔特人足球迷：三双很帅，可是进球很酷，MVP賽季的维斯布鲁克是紧要关头的凶手，除开那一个賽季呢？维斯布鲁克会结束我方另一方的期待，防御也很槽糕，充分考虑他的健身运动工作能力它是很难以置信的。但是，我想在维斯布鲁克来看，潜在性的防御篮板球比防御他的对合足球运动员更为关键。
When he stops shooting his team out of games and starts meaningfully contributing to winning basketball instead of putting up GOAT tier box scores.
The carry-job he did in his MVP season was really impressive, except turns out Sabonis, and to a lesser degree Adams, and Oladipo are not trash-tier players like everybody wanted you to believe at that time.Westbrook on his salary is a huge net negative asset if you're trying to put together a championship team, so that doesn't scream "all-time great" to me.
湖人足球迷：维斯布鲁克何时能获得重视？那要直到他何时不会再下手损害足球队的投球，逐渐做一些确实能协助足球队进球的事，而不是刷他那历史时间等级的数据信息。维斯布鲁克MVP賽季的Carry主要表现的确让人印象深刻，結果发觉萨博尼斯、拉塞尔和奥拉迪波都并不是当时外部希望你觉得的那类废弃物足球运动员。维斯布鲁克的合同书也是极大的负资产，假如谁可以紧紧围绕他打造出一支冠军团队，那真的是前所未有的。
[–][WAS] Bradley BealA2daRon 112 指標 20小時前*
Wizards are actually 12-25 with Westbrook and 4-3 without him.
天才足球迷：客观事实是，天才在有维斯布鲁克的赛事里12胜25负，沒有维斯布鲁克的赛事里4胜3负。
[–]Trail BlazersCletus_Starfish 21 指標 15小時前
I mean they weren't trash, but Oladipo, Grant and Sabonis were absolutely not the players that they are today and pretending otherwise seems disingenuous.
勇士足球迷：我想说的是，萨博尼斯、拉塞尔和奥拉迪波都并不是废弃物足球运动员，可是伯格和萨博尼斯那时候也彻底并不是现如今这类等级的足球运动员，敷衍了事令人感觉你很虚情假意。
[–]scuare_ 210 指標 21小時前
Everyone suspected Sabonis was going to be good, he was only traded because it was for Paul George. He was playing out of position in his ROOKIE year with the thunder because of Adams. He apparently was afraid of westbrook though so there was that.
Adams was always good, but not necessarily offensively. People already knew how good/not good he was at the time.
Oladipo got in crazy shape and took a giant leap the next year. Credited westbrook in how he learned how to train.
Grant couldn't really dribble at the time.
The most you can say is that the team was a very good defensive team. Kind of like a worse version of those AI phili teams.
那时候每一个人都了解萨博尼斯将来很有可能会打的非常好，他被送出是为了更好地买卖来乔冶。因为拉塞尔的存有，他新星賽季在雷庭就打的并不是自身的部位，他还有点儿担心维斯布鲁克，因此才会那样。拉塞尔打得一直都很好，可是不足有主动进攻，那时候大家都了解他的优点和缺点。奥拉迪波第二年获得了极大飞越，打疯掉，在其中也是有维斯布鲁克在他训炼上的协助。伯格那时候乃至连球都运不太好。你数最多可以说那支雷庭的防御非常好，等同于低配版艾弗森那一年的凯尔特人。
[–]Lakersmarkhanna123 10 指標 19小時前
Except ai took his team to the finals and won a game against Kobe and Shaq when they were unbeatable.
2/3 of Westbrook's last playoff runs he a negative net rating and the other one isn't far behind, just saying haha. Let's not compare Westbrook and AI
湖人队足球迷：除了艾弗森独自一人领队打到总决，并在如日华鑫的奥尼尔和科比·布莱恩特眼前取得了一场获胜不谈，近三年维斯布鲁克的NBA季后赛净高效率值有2年全是负的，此外一年也罢不去哪里，因此傻笑着就可以了，千万别拿维斯布鲁克和艾弗森一概而论。
[–]Lakersawesomobeardo 61 指標 19小時前
AI took that team to the finals on a significantly weaker conference. I don't think that's a valid point against Westbrook.
湖人队足球迷：艾弗森领队打进决赛的那一年东部地区显著总体水平最弱，我不会觉得它是能斥责维斯布鲁克的强有力事实论据。
[–]General1lol 16 指標 16小時前
That East was pretty weak and those 76ers had the COTY, DPOY, and 5MOTY.
那一年东部地区是确实弱，而艾弗森的76人队里有本年度最佳新秀、本年度最好防御人与本年度最佳第六人。
[–]Minneapolis LakersPardonme23 1 指標 16小時前
Awards are narrative bs. I guarantee you shaq was better defensively than mutombo.
湖人队足球迷：这些荣誉奖便是瞎说，我敢向你确保，奥尼尔的防御肯定比穆托姆博好。
[–]jf45 16 指標 15小時前
This is kind of a wild take. Deke is a 4x DPOY. He was a little older but still an all-time defensive player which Shaq was definitely not, especially in 2001 where he took a significant step back compared to the previous year.
你这就有点儿过分了，穆托姆博是四届DPOY。他那时候仅仅到了点年龄，但依然是历史时间等级的防御足球运动员。而奥尼尔肯定并不是，特别是在2001年他还比以前一个賽季下降许多呢。
[–][UTA] Joe InglesNitroXYZ 83 指標 23小時前
Westbrook is amazing at shooting his team out of games but it's ok because he gets lots of uncontested rebounds. Let's not forget this amazing stretch of 3 consecutive playoff games he had as the reigning MVP:
Game 2 vs Utah: 7/19 shooting, scoreless fourth.
Game 3 vs Utah: 5/17 shooting, 14 points, 8 turnovers.
Game 4 vs Utah: 7/18 shooting, 5 turnovers.
He then came out with vengeance the next season against Lillard.
Game 2 vs Portland: 5/20 shooting, 14 points, 6 turnovers.
Game 4 vs Portland: 5/21 shooting, 14 points.
Game 5 vs Portland: 11/31 shooting, 5 turnovers.
爵士舞足球迷：维斯布鲁克在将自身的足球队取代被淘汰这些方面很善于，可是没事儿，他接过了许多轻轻松松的篮板球。使我们别忘记维斯布鲁克做为卫冕冠军MVP在NBA季后赛持续三场赛事的主要表现吧：对战爵士舞的系列赛，第二场19中7，第四节0分；第三场17中5，14分8出错；第四场18中7，五个出错。
第二年他带上报仇的心理状态对到了威斯布鲁克的勇士，第二场20中5，14分6出错；第四场21中5，14分；第五场31中11，五个出错。
[–]RocketsbyRockets 28 指標 19小時前
Wait till you see his 2020 bubble performance
火箭弹足球迷：想等着你注意到维斯布鲁克上年选拔赛期内的主要表现。
[–]Trail Blazersirelli 101 指標 21小時前
That 11/31 game is impressively bad
He missed more shots than every other player on the thunder combined
In a 3 point loss at that. Everyone else was amazing. Dude singlehandedly lost the series that game
勇士足球迷：31中11那一场赛事糟糕透了，他投丢的球比雷庭别人加起來也要多，而那一场赛事雷庭只输掉三分，表明别人的主要表现都非常好，维斯布鲁克凭一己之力将雷庭取代被淘汰。
Every time Westbrook gets criticized, his fans whine about "analytics ruining the game."
Analytics aside. Have you ever played a lot with a really ball-dominant guard? When they're great it works, but if they're anything less than great, everybody else is just kind of standing around and not getting into the flow of things. There's a reason Dipo/Grant/Sabonis didn't take their leaps playing with Russ, and it's not all random chance. Russ gets assists, but he doesn't maximize the players he plays with, and the fact that they didn't get a chance to develop should be more of a knock against him than it is.
Imagine the OKC team from his MVP year with say, Kyle Lowry at the helm. Lowry wouldn't have averaged a triple double, but I'd bet that Dipo/Sabonis/Grant all would have looked better and the team would have been just about as good then and would be better now.
每一次威斯布鲁克遭受指责时，他的足球迷便会埋怨“数据统计分析摧毁了赛事快乐”。
大家把数据统计分析先放一边，您有和真实的运球型控球后卫打了许多回球吗？当她们打得费力罗一切都很好，当她们打得不太好时，别人就只有立在周边看，参加不进赛事。奥拉迪波、伯格、萨博尼斯和维斯布鲁克一起打篮球沒有完成飞越是有缘故的，并不全是不经意要素。维斯布鲁克是有许多助功，可是沒有将同伴的发展潜力利润最大化激起出去，同伴在维斯布鲁克身旁沒有获得充足的机遇发展，维斯布鲁克的难题更高。
回过头来假如维斯布鲁克拿MVP那一年，那支雷霆队的掌舵者是洛瑞得话，洛瑞拿不上场均三双的数据信息，可是我敢打赌奥拉迪波、萨博尼斯和伯格会看上去更棒，那支足球队也会看上去更棒。
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